Dear Keo, grow up already and address the issue like an adult.
Enough lying that you listened and addressed the concerns, while making changes to something that was never at the forefront of the discussion.
Stop pretending this is about how thin the lines got or how shading changed.
Quit hiding from your own community and just talk to us.
Admit that there was a change to the visual direction of the game. You are not helping the issue when you say this is just an all around improvement and nothing has changed. We're neither blind nor stupid, so quit treating us as such.
Make a statement that the change to the visual direction is final. That's what your actions have been saying so far anyway, so make it official already - you won't listen to any calls to changing the style, it's time to quit giving people false hope you might listen if they politely call to your reason long enough.
And finally, apologize to everyone unhappy with the changes in VN's visual direction. We've been supporting you for quite a while, you owe us that much. Your silence has been disheartening and just plain rude.
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A letter to everyone unhappy as I am
I'd like to thank all of you for being a pain in Keo's ass together with me.
Thank you for not letting them pretend like they have an overwhelming support of the community on the unnecessarily drastic and sudden changes to the visual direction of the game.
Keo has been acting in bad faith, attempting to swipe the issue under the rug and you did not let them. I'm proud of you all. Game developers must be always called out on their bad actions and that's exactly what you've done.
Maybe I've lost faith, or maybe I am finally seeing the situation clearly, either way I've grown completely disenchanted with the project. Those who remain and want to keep up the fight - give them hell! I am with you in spirit, if not in presence.
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A letter to everyone supporting the changes
You have been incredibly tone-deaf to the situation, self-indulgently praising a change towards a visual style more appealing to your fetishes, CELEBRATING other fans getting backstabbed and robbed of something they loved by the very developer they have shown nothing but kindness and veneration for years and years before you even came around.
I genuinely wish you to end up in our place at some point in your life. Might even happen with Dawn Chorus - that would be ironic.
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Thank you everyone for lending me your attention. I'll see you around in discussions of games not made by people acting like children.
Mate, take a deep breath - things are going to be ok. It's totally fine to not like a change in art style, and you are perfectly entitled to express that opinion and to no longer want to play the game.
But calling an update to the visual style of a game a "backstabbing" and celebrating "being a pain in [the developer's] ass" is taking things too far. Contrary to what you claim in your post, you are the one who needs to address the issue like an adult.
You are not the only person in existence to disagree with a change in direction for the development of a game. That happens all the time, and it's never as personal as you are taking it. Ultimately, the game belongs to the developer, and they are going to execute their vision for the game to the best of their abilities - you aren't entitled to keep things a certain way just because you previously supported the project.
Of course it's unfortunate when this happens - it's never fun to see changes to a project that you don't agree with - but this level of outrage is unwarranted and off-putting. You've obviously made your opinion known, so now just stop interacting with this project entirely. Stop harassing the developer and stop leaving rants on the comment pages. Try to forget about the project entirely - I promise you'll be less stressed if you do.
To Keo, I'm honestly pretty ambivalent about the sprite updates, but I do hope that you don't let people like the one I'm responding to get to you.
It is a bit disheartening to read, even if I get the disappointment. Still - sourcing information from pirate websites and then inferring things and then coming here to demand answers feels disrespectful to us as developers and we don't feel inclined to answer.
We're a team and Haku is working on the reworks and setting the direction for it. I support them in this because we're all working hard to make this VN the best we can. The response to the reworks in total has been positive and we continue to work on them - some of the details I've shared in the latest devlog, and I'll get back with more news once we have any we're ready to share with the public.
I'm glad to hear that the dev team is continuing to work hard on the VN. It has some of the best writing and art of any VN I've read, and it'd be a shame to give up on it because some jerks won't stop harassing you all. Wishing the team the best!
What the fuck dude, at least be respectful with Keo and the team. Just breathe and calm down. If You don't like the changes just don't play this VN anymore but don't be this rude with the devs.
You see, now I'm a mess. It's going to take a while for me to get back to normal, waiting day after day for an update that might make me feel something
I do not know what to say. This VN makes me have feelings. Feelings that for some reason I just don't feel in real life. I love VNs like this. This one in particular caught me off guard. This escape from reality took me back to it, in a painful and bittersweet way. But that's how I want to feel. I want to feel something. Thank you so much for this.
hey dawn chorus, may i know the name of the guesthouse that they are visiting, or is it a fake location that you made up ^w^? (it seems so nice there =w=)
Wait are all the paths 3 days max? Im sorry if I keep asking questions this is my first time reading a furry Vn and I can say this one will always be my FAVORITEEEE🙏🏻
I think the devs said once that all routes are gonna get 5 days. depending on your choices tho some routes can reach an end. like with SPOILERS and SPOILERS(twice!)
nah, the shortest route is 1 day and you fucking die! still a good route tho, more people should read it. SPOILERS!
start the Mikko route but when you find your key choose to just stay in your room instead. Mikko will try to change your mind but if you stick to your guns that'll set you in the "right" path
Will there be more of Rune😓? I feel like the ending was such a cliffhanger hes my favorite character so I wish there was more to the story other than it ending on him being mad he wasn’t accepted :((
Hey big question when you pick a story line and play does the game just stop when im done playing whats available for them or does it just keep going without said character if it helps im asking specifically for the ending with rune cause last i checked day 3 is not done right?
The game splits off into different routes at the end of day one depending on who you stay with, and yeah, each route does stop once you finish the most recent update of it.
Holy shit this game is a masterpiece. I have came across this game in boredom and thought to my self, "it looks pretty good, lets see how it is." Best decision of my entire life. First, the main menu music and background looks and sounds AMAZING. At that moment, I felt as if I was already in love with the game. I click start and the intro is... strange... but it still looks cool. I get my key and play the game for a bit. Good story I have to admit. I get to the part where I choose who I want to sleep with and I pick Mikko. Worst and best decision of my life. I say bad because the end of day 3 broke me... I had tears running down my cheeks. I thought that games would always have a good part of the game but when they don't... it hurts. I also say good because well... it made me think more about my life and others around me (I have no idea why). This game really changed me good and bad but I digress. This game is great so if your seeing this and have never played it, please do. (BTW: I really want to see a Mikko update soon, Thank you!)
Honestly I just played this game hoping for some NSFW scenes and then leave. But I just finished what's available for Jorgun's route and I'm not even disappointed at the lack of nudity, I've been utterly enthralled by these characters and their lives.
I would just like to tell the team they've done an amazing job making this game and I'm excided for more.
I feel like I shouldn't have played this game, I just thought it would be a gay furry hentai game but I was wrong and I made a big mistake, this was my first vn I had never played anything like it, I only played for lust and pleasure but during the game I met several personalities (rune, lake, devon and etc) when I finished lake and rune's route I felt an intense feeling that I had never felt until now I can't explain what that feeling is. I've never really been furry or gay and I'm from a third world country and I don't think I'll ever experience what the characters experienced, but what I felt playing lake's route was a lovely feeling and when it was over I felt empty, sad and I thought that I myself would never find someone like lake or anyone like any of the characters in this novel. I just wanted to forget about thinking if it would make me feel better and sorry for the mistakes in writing I don't know English fluently.
English is not my first languague either, if you wanna try another VN in the meantime, perhaps try Repeat or Tennis ace, those are great stories! (And long too)
I tried too but haven't found any. I think it's for Rune update just that they released it in this update, so when new update comes in February for Rune that's when we will be able to get that photo.
The update is bugged. Please fix this as soon as possible! I tried to load day 3 when Bjorn's route ended last update and it showed me this screen. It doesn't let me and it shows this 'an exception has occurred.'
I'll look into it now, but sometimes RenPy decides for some reason to break some saves ;_; if rollback/ignore doesn't help, it's possible that you'll have to start from Jump to route and use skip functionality to get to the point you were (there's an option to enable Skip Unseen in preferences!)
Unfortunately sometimes Renpy just nukes saves. At least this one still exists. Mine for both Dawn Chorus and The Smokeroom got obliterated by the new updates.
I regret playing this game I feel heartbroken I felt really bad for two days, the game ended at the best part when we start to delve deeper into the lake route. I can barely get the update
Well... That remains to be seen... Especially since it's someone else's art, I try to withhold critical judgement until I've seen it myself and formed my own opinion on the matter.
That being said, I think we can both agree that the sprites needed a rework. Especially considering how far HQ has come since his most current iteration, I think he deserves to fix what he sees as mistakes in the sprites or things he could've done better to be more in line with how he sees the characters he's drawing.
Finally, everything changes. This is an ever evolving project, who knows what they'll look like next year or the year after that. The creators are still making the project. Nothing is set in stone. But, to condemn someone else's art to being, "generic furry porn vn where everyone is buff," material is...I don't know... I'm an artist and I think that would bother me if I had seen it.
I said what I said and I'm pretty sure it's not a ship I'll have to go down with.
Looking forward to discussing this with you after you see the sprites for yourself.
Though I really think that after everything you've heard about them, you should be asking Keo to show them already, not just be sitting on your hands till the controversial sprites go live.
The cat is out of the bag anyway, and Patreon subscribers have known for a while now.
After 8 months of not reading anything for job reasons, this was the first one I got to when I finally had a break. Played through the some routes when the game was only at Day 1 and had to revisit. Took Bjørn's route first and was a lovely read but then to Mikko's and ow boy my mood tanked lol
Also its cool and weird at the same time that me and the mc practically have the same name haha
I love this project, the story and art are amazing. The amount of choices available allows for unique experiences in future playthroughs. I'd like for there to be an option to hide the text bar as it does obscure some of the screen.
Fair enough, that was a bit too much, and I'm sorry.
I overreacted, so it's for the best you deleted that comment.
But you really should share the news about the upcoming sprites rework with itch/twitter/bsky users yourself.
It's big news and it worries me you are not only keeping it secret to anyone outside patreon, but are also ignoring any criticism even patreon subscribers are giving.
I apologize for being rude in my original comment, but it was passion for your project that commanded my actions. I am very concerned that the original sprites are being treated with such disregard for what made them good.
Yes, the old sprites aren't perfect, but they have their charm and they have been the official look of the characters we all grew to love. People love these characters the way they are, warts and all. You can't just discard their old looks and expect everyone to get on board with such drastic changes in design.
I don't believe there's malice in your actions, I know how game development, in its messy process, often makes things fall in place just perfectly to make for a disaster.
But you need to be more open about this and keep the community more involved in the process of this change. You own the game, but you don't own the community, however there's no reason for us to antagonize each other. We can work together to make this change a true upgrade everyone will be happy about.
I understand you are a small team and your resources are not endless to keep remaking things, but I hope you can see this is a big change and it really needs more attention than this fire-and-forget approach.
I've seen a lot, and I mean a LOT of good proyects ruined because they wanted to please everyone and try to adjust their story to every little complain that a fan has.
Even if you paid for the game, that doesn't make you the boss of the people in charge of making it, I get where you're coming from, but don't accuse the creators of "Hiding" content just because you need to wait a little longer for it.
Personally, even if I myself will miss the old sprites, I get it. I think the new ones were needed, if you compare the old style to the cutscenes, they just looked too different and that can make it jarring.
i might be in the minority, but the sprite rework is generally good and makes the characters look way better imo. if the author feels like a change is needed, i think it should be implemented. of course, the entire community should be aware of it and can respectfully express their opinions but in the end its the author's decision that truly matters
That's the thing, the new sprites look generally good, they could be put into any other VN and feel right at home! But they are a bad fit for the project.
We're not an anti-everything-new mob of luddites, the old sprites could be improved, of course. But after so many people got used to the old designs, it must be done with respect for said original designs!
Dawn Chorus is a fascinating passionate project, telling intimate down-to-earth stories of interpersonal relationships with incredible nuance. It really doesn't need to look like a generic furry porn game...
Update your video card drivers and see if it helps.
Older drivers have been having various issues with RenPy for a while now and there are no plans to fix that, since the user is supposed to keep their video drivers up to date anyway.
p.s. When reporting a renpy VN bug - you should, at the very least, provide log.txt from the game's main directory, as well as a screenshot of the problem, in case of a visual bug. More often than not, it's very hard to help using only a short description of the problem.
Sorry sorry, I never did a report of a bug or anything but I did find out why it does that, it's whenever I open a different app and go back to the VN, his sprite loses the hands
He isn't just losing hands, he is losing everything below that point, you just can't see it because his shorts and shirt are different sprites layered above his body sprite. You can try to cause the bug when Torulf is naked and you will see it.
Have you updated your video driver? If you did and the game still does that - upload your log somewhere and link it here. It's generally considered VN developer's responsibility to report to Tom all the Renpy bugs found in their VNs.
Guess who's the only itch.io-bound maniac butchering Dawn Chorus' gamefiles.
Okay, the variable is called "nhia_beer" and it's only semi-important in Torulf's route. All other changes are small and happen during the fireplace party, here's a full list:
(spoiler)
During the fireplace party, changes numerous inconsequential lines like whether or not Lake gives Arvo another bottle, and who chugs soda during "Never Have I Ever".
During "Spin the bottle", if you are on Rune's, Bjorn's, or Torulf's route, sober Arvo can ask "What makes you happy?", while drunk Arvo can instead ask "What do you think of me?".
During "Spin the bottle", on Rune's route, when Lake dares Rune to kiss Arvo, sober Arvo tries to protest. Drunk Arvo decides he is "in no state to protest" and is pretty much anticipating it.
During "Never Have I Ever", if NSFW is enabled, drunk Arvo can wreak havoc at the table by saying he never thought about drinking his own piss. Chaos ensues when he scores some points.
In Torulf's route:
During "Spin the bottle", if they haven't slept on day 1, drunk Arvo asks why Torulf has been avoiding him. Sober Arvo gets normal questions.
Changes what Arvo asks Torulf after the fireplace party, if they haven't slept on day 1 - drunk Arvo once again asks why Torulf has been avoiding him, and sober asks what's between Torulf and Lake.
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A letter to Keo
Dear Keo, grow up already and address the issue like an adult.
Enough lying that you listened and addressed the concerns, while making changes to something that was never at the forefront of the discussion.
Stop pretending this is about how thin the lines got or how shading changed.
Quit hiding from your own community and just talk to us.
Admit that there was a change to the visual direction of the game. You are not helping the issue when you say this is just an all around improvement and nothing has changed. We're neither blind nor stupid, so quit treating us as such.
Make a statement that the change to the visual direction is final. That's what your actions have been saying so far anyway, so make it official already - you won't listen to any calls to changing the style, it's time to quit giving people false hope you might listen if they politely call to your reason long enough.
And finally, apologize to everyone unhappy with the changes in VN's visual direction. We've been supporting you for quite a while, you owe us that much. Your silence has been disheartening and just plain rude.
========================
A letter to everyone unhappy as I am
I'd like to thank all of you for being a pain in Keo's ass together with me.
Thank you for not letting them pretend like they have an overwhelming support of the community on the unnecessarily drastic and sudden changes to the visual direction of the game.
Keo has been acting in bad faith, attempting to swipe the issue under the rug and you did not let them. I'm proud of you all. Game developers must be always called out on their bad actions and that's exactly what you've done.
Maybe I've lost faith, or maybe I am finally seeing the situation clearly, either way I've grown completely disenchanted with the project. Those who remain and want to keep up the fight - give them hell! I am with you in spirit, if not in presence.
========================
A letter to everyone supporting the changes
You have been incredibly tone-deaf to the situation, self-indulgently praising a change towards a visual style more appealing to your fetishes, CELEBRATING other fans getting backstabbed and robbed of something they loved by the very developer they have shown nothing but kindness and veneration for years and years before you even came around.
I genuinely wish you to end up in our place at some point in your life. Might even happen with Dawn Chorus - that would be ironic.
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Thank you everyone for lending me your attention. I'll see you around in discussions of games not made by people acting like children.
Play only good games.
Peace!
Mate, take a deep breath - things are going to be ok. It's totally fine to not like a change in art style, and you are perfectly entitled to express that opinion and to no longer want to play the game.
But calling an update to the visual style of a game a "backstabbing" and celebrating "being a pain in [the developer's] ass" is taking things too far. Contrary to what you claim in your post, you are the one who needs to address the issue like an adult.
You are not the only person in existence to disagree with a change in direction for the development of a game. That happens all the time, and it's never as personal as you are taking it. Ultimately, the game belongs to the developer, and they are going to execute their vision for the game to the best of their abilities - you aren't entitled to keep things a certain way just because you previously supported the project.
Of course it's unfortunate when this happens - it's never fun to see changes to a project that you don't agree with - but this level of outrage is unwarranted and off-putting. You've obviously made your opinion known, so now just stop interacting with this project entirely. Stop harassing the developer and stop leaving rants on the comment pages. Try to forget about the project entirely - I promise you'll be less stressed if you do.
To Keo, I'm honestly pretty ambivalent about the sprite updates, but I do hope that you don't let people like the one I'm responding to get to you.
It is a bit disheartening to read, even if I get the disappointment. Still - sourcing information from pirate websites and then inferring things and then coming here to demand answers feels disrespectful to us as developers and we don't feel inclined to answer.
We're a team and Haku is working on the reworks and setting the direction for it. I support them in this because we're all working hard to make this VN the best we can. The response to the reworks in total has been positive and we continue to work on them - some of the details I've shared in the latest devlog, and I'll get back with more news once we have any we're ready to share with the public.
Thank you ^^
I'm glad to hear that the dev team is continuing to work hard on the VN. It has some of the best writing and art of any VN I've read, and it'd be a shame to give up on it because some jerks won't stop harassing you all. Wishing the team the best!
What the fuck dude, at least be respectful with Keo and the team. Just breathe and calm down. If You don't like the changes just don't play this VN anymore but don't be this rude with the devs.
Fuck you
What is going to have the 19.2 upate???
Soon the update will be released and then my heart will break again. Thank you for developing this game
Let's hurt together
All of us can hurt together
It's HURT CHORUS
You see, now I'm a mess. It's going to take a while for me to get back to normal, waiting day after day for an update that might make me feel something
😭😭😭 for me it ends when mikko asked if I loved him bruh help this what happens when I get the update I have enough storage
I do not know what to say. This VN makes me have feelings. Feelings that for some reason I just don't feel in real life. I love VNs like this. This one in particular caught me off guard. This escape from reality took me back to it, in a painful and bittersweet way. But that's how I want to feel. I want to feel something. Thank you so much for this.
I'm really hoping to get more for the Devon's route soon!
Just wondering is there any chance day 4 for lake is coming out any time soon ?
Lake's day 3 isn't finished yet!
a litle heads up, we will get 5 days for every route, and they can end early if you chose the right options. updates come every month or two too ^w^
I don't know why, but there is a perfect song for the Mikko route that I just remembered.
Young - Vacations
hey dawn chorus, may i know the name of the guesthouse that they are visiting, or is it a fake location that you made up ^w^? (it seems so nice there =w=)
I think Bjorn's route says it's called Birdsong
Thank you, i will try to find it, oh yeah may I know when he says that or what day it is? ^w^
oof, I can't remember, but I do remember he says it while the group is outside, it's the same background as the Lake snowball fight
Wait are all the paths 3 days max? Im sorry if I keep asking questions this is my first time reading a furry Vn and I can say this one will always be my FAVORITEEEE🙏🏻
I think the devs said once that all routes are gonna get 5 days. depending on your choices tho some routes can reach an end. like with SPOILERS and SPOILERS(twice!)
thank god i hope they do make all the routes 5 days🙏🏻😭
The shortest route is 2 days and you end it alone
nah, the shortest route is 1 day and you fucking die! still a good route tho, more people should read it. SPOILERS!
start the Mikko route but when you find your key choose to just stay in your room instead. Mikko will try to change your mind but if you stick to your guns that'll set you in the "right" path
Will there be more of Rune😓? I feel like the ending was such a cliffhanger hes my favorite character so I wish there was more to the story other than it ending on him being mad he wasn’t accepted :((
I know! I need to know what happens!
The update for him is already out on Patreon and will be released here on 19.02!
Just out of curiosity when will 19.02 be out.?
19.02 is 19th of February, not the build version 😭
OHHHH LOLL MB
Hey big question when you pick a story line and play does the game just stop when im done playing whats available for them or does it just keep going without said character if it helps im asking specifically for the ending with rune cause last i checked day 3 is not done right?
The game splits off into different routes at the end of day one depending on who you stay with, and yeah, each route does stop once you finish the most recent update of it.
thanks a bunch
Holy shit this game is a masterpiece. I have came across this game in boredom and thought to my self, "it looks pretty good, lets see how it is." Best decision of my entire life. First, the main menu music and background looks and sounds AMAZING. At that moment, I felt as if I was already in love with the game. I click start and the intro is... strange... but it still looks cool. I get my key and play the game for a bit. Good story I have to admit. I get to the part where I choose who I want to sleep with and I pick Mikko. Worst and best decision of my life. I say bad because the end of day 3 broke me... I had tears running down my cheeks. I thought that games would always have a good part of the game but when they don't... it hurts. I also say good because well... it made me think more about my life and others around me (I have no idea why). This game really changed me good and bad but I digress. This game is great so if your seeing this and have never played it, please do. (BTW: I really want to see a Mikko update soon, Thank you!)
Honestly I just played this game hoping for some NSFW scenes and then leave. But I just finished what's available for Jorgun's route and I'm not even disappointed at the lack of nudity, I've been utterly enthralled by these characters and their lives.
I would just like to tell the team they've done an amazing job making this game and I'm excided for more.
(p.s any idea when Jorgun's story will continue?)
Very soon! We're working on it this month.
How do I get with mikko
Go through day 1, at the end you get to make the final choice
what do you mean
I don't think it's possible, the romance is still developing and we just have to hope that everything goes well. Although I haven't played his route
How to get the good ending with the little dog I forgot his name sorry
I played the rune route over and over, then when i made a new save there was a secret scene, anyone else get this?
Not a secret scene, that's just the standard intro (it got updated recently)
Ah alright
how to get that scene. Have never found it
I loved the new Bjørn update. I'm so excited to see their romance bud. Good shiz.
Am I the only one without the Mikko illustration of them walking in the sunset? Cause it hasn't showed up in my gallery yet.
Same.
Sir I am having Klaus withdrawals I am begging you.
LITERALLY hes my fave im fucking STARVING 😭😭😭
Are there any updates planed for Klaus?
Someday. I'm struggling with my ideas for it; the later I'll get to writing it, the better it'll be, and I want it to be truly special.
Ok, thanks
I am excited for it, From Beyond me like one of your horrorterrors.
ANNOTHER DEVON UPDATE WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY LOVE HIM WITHOUT THE STORY ENDING RIGHT BEFORE (please I beg of you.)
I feel like I shouldn't have played this game, I just thought it would be a gay furry hentai game but I was wrong and I made a big mistake, this was my first vn I had never played anything like it, I only played for lust and pleasure but during the game I met several personalities (rune, lake, devon and etc) when I finished lake and rune's route I felt an intense feeling that I had never felt until now I can't explain what that feeling is. I've never really been furry or gay and I'm from a third world country and I don't think I'll ever experience what the characters experienced, but what I felt playing lake's route was a lovely feeling and when it was over I felt empty, sad and I thought that I myself would never find someone like lake or anyone like any of the characters in this novel. I just wanted to forget about thinking if it would make me feel better and sorry for the mistakes in writing I don't know English fluently.
The average VN reader experience
Play another VN as you wait for this one to update, and let the cycle begin again haha
I'll break down if I do it, but I think I'll do it
English is not my first languague either, if you wanna try another VN in the meantime, perhaps try Repeat or Tennis ace, those are great stories! (And long too)
I found another one called 9:22 that I thought was quite different from other vn I've seen
I can recommend some finished ones that are quite good but only a few have nsfw scenes.
Can somebody tell me for which characters are these 2 photos? I tried like every character and route but haven't found one of these. </3
the first one is new I think, probably bjorn, and the second one is for mikko.
thanks so much <3
Tell me if you find the first one cause I just played bjørns route and can't find it.
I tried too but haven't found any. I think it's for Rune update just that they released it in this update, so when new update comes in February for Rune that's when we will be able to get that photo.
That would make sense.
Hi Dev so you are saying it's just SFW mode?I hope there is NSFW mode too,welp guess I'll have to play to see if it's nsfw...😃
I need more lake and rune PLS!!!!!
The update is bugged. Please fix this as soon as possible! I tried to load day 3 when Bjorn's route ended last update and it showed me this screen. It doesn't let me and it shows this 'an exception has occurred.'
I'll look into it now, but sometimes RenPy decides for some reason to break some saves ;_; if rollback/ignore doesn't help, it's possible that you'll have to start from Jump to route and use skip functionality to get to the point you were (there's an option to enable Skip Unseen in preferences!)
It worked! Thanks so much, but please fix this save issue if possible! <3
Unfortunately sometimes Renpy just nukes saves. At least this one still exists. Mine for both Dawn Chorus and The Smokeroom got obliterated by the new updates.
Also, check in your saves if you don't have an autosave from eariler in the route (A tab in Load)
okay! I will
I regret playing this game I feel heartbroken I felt really bad for two days, the game ended at the best part when we start to delve deeper into the lake route. I can barely get the update
Yall be taking Rune like a joke 💀 💀 is he ext update about him??
The update after this upcoming one. February 19th. It's in the description.
I'm excited to see the new sprites. Does anyone know if they'll be in the bjørn updated coming in a few days?
Not yet! We're still working on them.
Copy that!!! Take your time!!! I'm sure they're gonna be great!!!
Sure, if by "great" you meant they will have a "generic furry porn vn where everyone is buff" look.
I mean... The new sprites are not horrible, but to have them replace already established looks is just a travesty.
Well... That remains to be seen... Especially since it's someone else's art, I try to withhold critical judgement until I've seen it myself and formed my own opinion on the matter.
That being said, I think we can both agree that the sprites needed a rework. Especially considering how far HQ has come since his most current iteration, I think he deserves to fix what he sees as mistakes in the sprites or things he could've done better to be more in line with how he sees the characters he's drawing.
Finally, everything changes. This is an ever evolving project, who knows what they'll look like next year or the year after that. The creators are still making the project. Nothing is set in stone. But, to condemn someone else's art to being, "generic furry porn vn where everyone is buff," material is...I don't know... I'm an artist and I think that would bother me if I had seen it.
Like I said, I'll reserve judgement.
I said what I said and I'm pretty sure it's not a ship I'll have to go down with.
Looking forward to discussing this with you after you see the sprites for yourself.
Though I really think that after everything you've heard about them, you should be asking Keo to show them already, not just be sitting on your hands till the controversial sprites go live.
The cat is out of the bag anyway, and Patreon subscribers have known for a while now.
UPDATE JORGEN PLSSSSSSSSS
After 8 months of not reading anything for job reasons, this was the first one I got to when I finally had a break. Played through the some routes when the game was only at Day 1 and had to revisit. Took Bjørn's route first and was a lovely read but then to Mikko's and ow boy my mood tanked lol
Also its cool and weird at the same time that me and the mc practically have the same name haha
I love this project, the story and art are amazing. The amount of choices available allows for unique experiences in future playthroughs. I'd like for there to be an option to hide the text bar as it does obscure some of the screen.
They just updated their Twitter. 2.19 is the release supposedly
I'd appreciate commenters not posting links to pirate websites.
Fair enough, that was a bit too much, and I'm sorry.
I overreacted, so it's for the best you deleted that comment.
But you really should share the news about the upcoming sprites rework with itch/twitter/bsky users yourself.
It's big news and it worries me you are not only keeping it secret to anyone outside patreon, but are also ignoring any criticism even patreon subscribers are giving.
I apologize for being rude in my original comment, but it was passion for your project that commanded my actions. I am very concerned that the original sprites are being treated with such disregard for what made them good.
Yes, the old sprites aren't perfect, but they have their charm and they have been the official look of the characters we all grew to love. People love these characters the way they are, warts and all. You can't just discard their old looks and expect everyone to get on board with such drastic changes in design.
I don't believe there's malice in your actions, I know how game development, in its messy process, often makes things fall in place just perfectly to make for a disaster.
But you need to be more open about this and keep the community more involved in the process of this change. You own the game, but you don't own the community, however there's no reason for us to antagonize each other. We can work together to make this change a true upgrade everyone will be happy about.
I understand you are a small team and your resources are not endless to keep remaking things, but I hope you can see this is a big change and it really needs more attention than this fire-and-forget approach.
Please don't be a stranger to your own fans.
I've seen a lot, and I mean a LOT of good proyects ruined because they wanted to please everyone and try to adjust their story to every little complain that a fan has.
Even if you paid for the game, that doesn't make you the boss of the people in charge of making it, I get where you're coming from, but don't accuse the creators of "Hiding" content just because you need to wait a little longer for it.
Personally, even if I myself will miss the old sprites, I get it. I think the new ones were needed, if you compare the old style to the cutscenes, they just looked too different and that can make it jarring.
i might be in the minority, but the sprite rework is generally good and makes the characters look way better imo. if the author feels like a change is needed, i think it should be implemented. of course, the entire community should be aware of it and can respectfully express their opinions but in the end its the author's decision that truly matters
That's the thing, the new sprites look generally good, they could be put into any other VN and feel right at home! But they are a bad fit for the project.
We're not an anti-everything-new mob of luddites, the old sprites could be improved, of course. But after so many people got used to the old designs, it must be done with respect for said original designs!
Dawn Chorus is a fascinating passionate project, telling intimate down-to-earth stories of interpersonal relationships with incredible nuance. It really doesn't need to look like a generic furry porn game...
Love it so far! But waiting for the next update to Rune's path is torture bc I think I might actually have a crush on him ;-;
Is it just for me that sometimes duting Torulf's route his sprite sometimes appears with his hand cut off and sometimes doesn't?
Update your video card drivers and see if it helps.
Older drivers have been having various issues with RenPy for a while now and there are no plans to fix that, since the user is supposed to keep their video drivers up to date anyway.
p.s. When reporting a renpy VN bug - you should, at the very least, provide log.txt from the game's main directory, as well as a screenshot of the problem, in case of a visual bug. More often than not, it's very hard to help using only a short description of the problem.
Sorry sorry, I never did a report of a bug or anything but I did find out why it does that, it's whenever I open a different app and go back to the VN, his sprite loses the hands
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He isn't just losing hands, he is losing everything below that point, you just can't see it because his shorts and shirt are different sprites layered above his body sprite. You can try to cause the bug when Torulf is naked and you will see it.
Have you updated your video driver? If you did and the game still does that - upload your log somewhere and link it here. It's generally considered VN developer's responsibility to report to Tom all the Renpy bugs found in their VNs.
Or you can report it to the Renpy github yourself, if you have a git account or don't mind making one. https://github.com/renpy/renpy/issues
He deserves it🥰🥰🥰
This is a fantastic comment. I love this. XD
hi, guys
anyone ever butchered scripts whether drinking while playing on a second day changes anything and if positive then in which routes?
Guess who's the only itch.io-bound maniac butchering Dawn Chorus' gamefiles.
Okay, the variable is called "nhia_beer" and it's only semi-important in Torulf's route. All other changes are small and happen during the fireplace party, here's a full list:
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During the fireplace party, changes numerous inconsequential lines like whether or not Lake gives Arvo another bottle, and who chugs soda during "Never Have I Ever".
During "Spin the bottle", if you are on Rune's, Bjorn's, or Torulf's route, sober Arvo can ask "What makes you happy?", while drunk Arvo can instead ask "What do you think of me?".
During "Spin the bottle", on Rune's route, when Lake dares Rune to kiss Arvo, sober Arvo tries to protest. Drunk Arvo decides he is "in no state to protest" and is pretty much anticipating it.
During "Never Have I Ever", if NSFW is enabled, drunk Arvo can wreak havoc at the table by saying he never thought about drinking his own piss. Chaos ensues when he scores some points.
In Torulf's route:
During "Spin the bottle", if they haven't slept on day 1, drunk Arvo asks why Torulf has been avoiding him. Sober Arvo gets normal questions.
Changes what Arvo asks Torulf after the fireplace party, if they haven't slept on day 1 - drunk Arvo once again asks why Torulf has been avoiding him, and sober asks what's between Torulf and Lake.