It was confusing to me too, took a bit of browsing the comments here to figure out. If the route ends with a sunset scene and cuts to thanking the patrons, you got the better ending!
Don't overthink your choices too much, the good/bad routes are determined by events that occur before this update's release (0.32).
If you haven't played the Mikko update yet, listen to Dawn Chorus by Thom Yorke! It really sets the mood a lot more, and in my case gave more of an impact while playing!! I highly recommend it
Wow, i don't have words to describe how i feel after playing Mikko's path, it gives you hope, but realism at the same time, it really touched me, i can identify with many things, both of Mikko and Arvo, and including the song by Thom Yorke was truly amazing.
I must admit i cried, i think the message of that ending is to let go but not forgeting, to be sincere and living the moment, live each second you can with that person you love, and don't be afraid of telling them what you feel.
I dare to say that Dawn Chorus has changed me, the soundtrack inspires me to create music and gives peace.
Thank you so much for creating this game and keep it going, thanks again.
Okay so uh Miko have sad ending wich is rather dissapointing(in my opinion) but i guess there have to be one( but please consider doing good ending too)
I really wish they could be happy together :c
I love Biørn(i apologize if i writed IT wrongly) route, i dont know why but he reminds me slightly of myself( even fact that he Knows few words in Polish make's my hearth warm since its my homeland language) but his story is nice overall
I wish everyone a good day/evening/afternoon/night whenever you read it :>
It's not the end of the route, of course! Day 3 can end in one of two ways on Mikko route, and the one with credits is an actual end, while the other will be continued in the next updates.
I made both endings, and i think (hope) that this is the one who will be continued... i will not spoil the other end, but the credits aren't the same... and at least you two have talked
I'm a little confused. I'm pretty sure that the Mikko ending where you get the option to knock on his door is the "good" one and where it continues from and whatnot, but there are credits after that..? Are there just more credit-y credits on the "bad" end, or is that really where it continues from?
My favourite route so far is Rune's route, i love how wholesome it feels and i am so on-edge with the cliffhanger on day 3. I cant wait to see it continue i feel bad for rune so much
I know that none of the major plot points will resolve on day three—That would just be unrewarding as a reader—but y'all are stressing me out with the talk of Mikko's route... I haven't had time to play it yet, but I'm already sad.
Okay. Okay. Just went through MOST of the new Mikko stuff.
spoilers BTW
I really do and don't wanna know what happens when knocking on Mikkos door after the forest talk. Can someone who has knocked just say "it went good" or "it went bad" in the replies without any elaboration further?
Hey, after nocking Mikko's door nothing happens, he doesnt open the door and Arvo goes back to his room, the path finishes shortly after that, it's a sad ending tbh.
Quite a few versions back, I remember that if you chose to go on a walk with Mikko on day 2, you had the option to hug him when he was making music. Even if you were on a different route (in my case it was Rune's). But now it just doesn't let you do that. Is this a bug or an intentional decision? Xd
I believe that it was a slight oversight when configuring the walk on each of the routes where you can take the walk. It's possible that the devs forgot to remove that option for Rune's route, and just recently fixed it.
I've always wondered why I ended up on Bjørn's route immediately, but then I realized he reminds me so much of my boyfriend. 😹 Love this VN; the characters feel real and multi-dimensional. They are all relatable in some way. Really looking forward to the direction of this VN.
The game itself is simply amazing. Every character is well written and their interactions between each other feel natural, they are not perfect and that`s what makes them better. I really love this VN and appreciate authors for bringing to life this masterpiece, never give up on what you do, it`s amazing.
. .Could I get an explaination of what happens to Arvo after you decline Torluf twice? He seems to go into the woods, claiming that "he'll come back stronger". ..Is it possible that he's dead? Or missing? What would the other's reactions to this be? Would love to see a mod on this.
I love this visual noval quite alot, it makes me inspired to make my own. I truly enjoy the chacters and their interactions, I can't quite explain why this VN touches me the way it does. Ive read VNs for years and none leave me feeling the way this one does. Its butifull and poetic, I can't sing it's praises enough. Thank you to the devs who made this novel.
No debí hacer primero la ruta de Mikko, ahora siento que las otras relaciones no son tan profundas como la de Mikko, que hasta ahora es tierna, profunda, significativa y con una historia de fondo.😭
Pls pls pls read this vn because it's a beautifully told story or story's should I say. Pls after you have finished a route play the song Plant by Kasper Lindmark on Spotify, it made me think of this vn immediately.
Well, I haven't had a visual novel make me think as much as this one did. I love the characters and the themes. Maybe it's because I'm currently a student myself but this game made me introspect a lot and I'm very grateful for it. I can't wait to experience the full story. Btw, Jørgen is my favourite :3
I'm getting an unusual warning from my computer whenever I try and download the latest build, a warning saying that the file is suspicious and possibly virus carrying. It's probably just my PC being overly cautious like normal, but can anyone else who has already downloaded it verify whether the public build is safe please?
Like, I honestly thought he was pretty normal until I played through the ending of day 2 and day 3. I played with two "mini-routes", one where mc tells mikko he's jealous and the one where he tries to get mikko apologies from torulf, and playing through them kinda made me realize that I'm kind of wrong in the head for taking half of torulf's behavior as normal, and that he kind of gives me creeps. Like, I honestly want to keep playing his route but I'll keep going because Im truly interested in what ends up happening in the end of both mini-routes and what does he actually feels about that whole messed up situation with Lake and the mc
This is one of the reasons why the author is amazing... I think they kind of put you into Arvo's perspective so well that you don't really notice how isolated from your friends you've become until it's too late. You get pitted against Lake and against Mikko and against everyone because he wants to test how far you're willing to go for him.
Torulf is kind of toxic because he's driven on a base level by a desire for recognition due to—from my perspective at least—a lack of confidence in his own self worth. He seeks external validation to feel as though he means something. We see this in the way he preens in front of others, and his openly flirtatious attitude. We see this in his actions towards the MC and towards lake.
However his desire for external gratification melds with his fear of commitment and creates this really unhealthy balance of push and pull on people's feelings.
Look at Lake, for example. On the one hand, Torulf desires to be close to him physically and maybe even emotionally in some deep hidden way. He loves the attention and the compliments. He loves to be desired, but when the sex is over, and the cuddling is past... when the gradification ends... he's left empty again, and because he can't fill himself up with his own confidence and his own love, he goes out to seek it from others once again.
This creates a poisonous cycle of distancing himself and getting close and distancing himself and getting close. Hot and cold if you will.
If you haven't yet played Lakes route yet, I would do so. If I'm correct you get a glimpse into Torulfs mind near the end of the newest update. I shall leave it at that. Hopefully my ramblings make sense.
Torluf(and us by choosing his route) breaks Arvo on a fundamental level. We choose that Arvo "feels comfortable" with Torluf's flirting, but based on the little knowledge that we know ABOUT Arvo, his personality, and past, would he ACTUALLY be okay with it?
If we step out of our "We control the main character" point of view, and look at the situation through, say Lake's or Mikko's perspective, we would probably see some stranger changing your friend from Mikko's view, and a person who you seek validation from(Via compliments, contact, or sex,) pitting your friend against you from Lake's view.
The bathroom scene after the third NSFW scene shows Arvo(almost) realizing what's happening, and getting disgusted by himself and his actions(At least, that's how I interpret it.) He also confides in the ram lady who's name I forgot about it, and seeks advice from her.
It's also important to note that this doesn't happen in ANY other routes. Not after anything with Bjorn, not after anything with Rune, not after anything with Jorgen. It's only in TORLUF'S route. I may be copying what someone has already said, but the other routes bring out different parts of Arvo's personality, while Torluf's route changes Arvo into doing things that he probably wouldn't do on any other route.
I was doing the double refuse to sleep with Torulf route and I got this message right after entering the forest. Anyone has an idea of how to fix that? Or alternatively, tell me what happens after Arvo goes into the forest in that route? lol
Also I just played all the routes (I could play lol) for Torulf and I have to praise the writing because wow,,,,, I have never seen a character that embodied the concept of red flag as much as him lmaooo.
Like literally every part of him is insufferable (in a good way as a reader dw), and like his stingy ass and the bareback sex is like the cherry on top lmao.
Like this route feels like a cautionary tale it's so cathartic lol- like honestly 10/10 writing because never in my life have I wanted to reach out into my screen and strangle a character more than with that character lmaoooo.
I was team Kudzu all the way like he’s literally THE dream bf like storytime: my friend coerced me into playing the Leo route (that’s how I got introduced to the furry fandom lol) and I was bored outta my mind by Leo so I can’t properly express how much I was rooting for Chase x Kudzu to happen and the way I SCREAMED when they got together at the end 😭😭😭 and the funniest part is that my friend is a diehard Leo Stan and he was convinced that I would be one as well ahdjhzhejf 😭 Kudzu supremacy fr lmaooo
Honestly, I think Kudzu deserves better than Chase. Hell no, I think even Leo deserves better than him. Throughout the routes my opinion about Chase got lower and lower especially during Flynn's route. I do understand that he was possesed most of the game but still It doesn't change the fact that I don't like him as a character. Kudzu best boi tho
Chase DOES suck in some of the game, but that's somewhat to blame on the hum(the hysteria), somewhat to blame on Samuel(us), and somewhat to blame on Chase Himself. I'm pretty sure the hum "amplifies" the "Crazy" traits of someone, be it Leo's obsession with Chase as seen by The Embrace, or Jenna's craziness in the bad end of her route. I don't believe that Chase is blameless, but I do believe that he isn't entirely at fault. ..But then again, Leo causes Chase to lose his feet in the bad end, so Leo IS covered in red flags.
Torulf is... He reminds me of... Ehh... In my opinion, he's the only one that truly warps Arvo in a structural sense. The only one that...
Everyone in the story of course brings out sides of him, highlights needs, or opens him up to new possibilities about himself and about the world, but Torulf makes him into something he's not. Twists him up inside.
It reminds me too much of people I've met/interacted with before.
Overall though, just as everyone else in the story, he's a well written and believable character. He just hits a little to close to home in some ways.
This game is so cool I binged the Rune route the past few days and I loved it sm <3
i had a question concerning SPOILERS:
The Klaus route. First of all, this route is fantastic and by far my favorite!! I didn’t expect much and yet I was mindblown lol, I love when romance is combined with a horror aspect and the blend of dream-reality had me on my toes the whole time lol- and also, having not played the Mikko route yet, the Klaus route really builds up the tension of what happened between Mikko and Arvo and I can’t wait to find out what happened in the Mikko route.
Now for my question: seemingly, at the end of day 2, there’s a message from Klaus that says to meet him at the door on the right in the corridor that leads to the sauna. And then, it takes me back to the main screen.
Is there something for me to find out? I’ve tried replaying a few routes and try to go to the screen of that specific corridor and click on the door on the right but nothing seems to happen.
Is it yet to be implemented for a day 3 of that route or is it already implemented and must be found out? I got the idea that since the route seems to play with the notion of 4th wall breaks, it might be the latter.
Anyway, thank you for the game it’s just so cool I love it!!
you need to get a jacket to be able to access the first Klaus event (you can get it in the Devon route and also another one I think but I forgot with who, maybe Rune)
And second spoilers:
You need to select Devon as a roommate and third spoilers:
when you’re asked to help him with the telescopes you have to choose to go to the cafeteria instead
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It was confusing to me too, took a bit of browsing the comments here to figure out. If the route ends with a sunset scene and cuts to thanking the patrons, you got the better ending!
Don't overthink your choices too much, the good/bad routes are determined by events that occur before this update's release (0.32).
If you haven't played the Mikko update yet, listen to Dawn Chorus by Thom Yorke! It really sets the mood a lot more, and in my case gave more of an impact while playing!! I highly recommend it
I didn't know Thom Yorke had a solo project... 🥺
Wow, i don't have words to describe how i feel after playing Mikko's path, it gives you hope, but realism at the same time, it really touched me, i can identify with many things, both of Mikko and Arvo, and including the song by Thom Yorke was truly amazing.
I must admit i cried, i think the message of that ending is to let go but not forgeting, to be sincere and living the moment, live each second you can with that person you love, and don't be afraid of telling them what you feel.
I dare to say that Dawn Chorus has changed me, the soundtrack inspires me to create music and gives peace.
Thank you so much for creating this game and keep it going, thanks again.
Okay so uh Miko have sad ending wich is rather dissapointing(in my opinion) but i guess there have to be one( but please consider doing good ending too)
I really wish they could be happy together :c
I love Biørn(i apologize if i writed IT wrongly) route, i dont know why but he reminds me slightly of myself( even fact that he Knows few words in Polish make's my hearth warm since its my homeland language) but his story is nice overall
I wish everyone a good day/evening/afternoon/night whenever you read it :>
(Dev's please give Miko happy ending one day :c)
It's not the end of the route, of course! Day 3 can end in one of two ways on Mikko route, and the one with credits is an actual end, while the other will be continued in the next updates.
Sssooooo... i got the credits when I didnt knock.. so i have to knock to continue the route when the next Mikko update cones out?
I made both endings, and i think (hope) that this is the one who will be continued... i will not spoil the other end, but the credits aren't the same... and at least you two have talked
I'm a little confused. I'm pretty sure that the Mikko ending where you get the option to knock on his door is the "good" one and where it continues from and whatnot, but there are credits after that..? Are there just more credit-y credits on the "bad" end, or is that really where it continues from?
Never mind. I checked out the bad end and it's uh... Something...
My favourite route so far is Rune's route, i love how wholesome it feels and i am so on-edge with the cliffhanger on day 3. I cant wait to see it continue i feel bad for rune so much
I know that none of the major plot points will resolve on day three—That would just be unrewarding as a reader—but y'all are stressing me out with the talk of Mikko's route... I haven't had time to play it yet, but I'm already sad.
Okay. Okay. Just went through MOST of the new Mikko stuff.
spoilers BTW
I really do and don't wanna know what happens when knocking on Mikkos door after the forest talk. Can someone who has knocked just say "it went good" or "it went bad" in the replies without any elaboration further?
Hey, after nocking Mikko's door nothing happens, he doesnt open the door and Arvo goes back to his room, the path finishes shortly after that, it's a sad ending tbh.
Is there a good outcome?
Keo, the creator said it'll be another ending in further updates, that ending made me cry
Slightly off topic: try listen Rabinovitch-Barakovsky "Incantations". Very uplifting and exciting piece of music.
As baroque music enjoyer I'm feel slightly offended x)
Quite a few versions back, I remember that if you chose to go on a walk with Mikko on day 2, you had the option to hug him when he was making music. Even if you were on a different route (in my case it was Rune's). But now it just doesn't let you do that. Is this a bug or an intentional decision? Xd
I believe that it was a slight oversight when configuring the walk on each of the routes where you can take the walk. It's possible that the devs forgot to remove that option for Rune's route, and just recently fixed it.
Idk I hope they change it back because I feel bad for Mikko 😔💔
I've always wondered why I ended up on Bjørn's route immediately, but then I realized he reminds me so much of my boyfriend. 😹 Love this VN; the characters feel real and multi-dimensional. They are all relatable in some way. Really looking forward to the direction of this VN.
This game is absolutely stunning. love the characters, they all seem fleshed out. I cant wait for the coming updates!
The game itself is simply amazing. Every character is well written and their interactions between each other feel natural, they are not perfect and that`s what makes them better. I really love this VN and appreciate authors for bringing to life this masterpiece, never give up on what you do, it`s amazing.
. .Could I get an explaination of what happens to Arvo after you decline Torluf twice? He seems to go into the woods, claiming that "he'll come back stronger". ..Is it possible that he's dead? Or missing? What would the other's reactions to this be? Would love to see a mod on this.
Real time talk, people... Mikko lovers do you try to include Mikko in the lunch conversation on day one or do you let him adjust to the crowd?
I try to include him
I love this visual noval quite alot, it makes me inspired to make my own. I truly enjoy the chacters and their interactions, I can't quite explain why this VN touches me the way it does. Ive read VNs for years and none leave me feeling the way this one does. Its butifull and poetic, I can't sing it's praises enough. Thank you to the devs who made this novel.
Just got the soundtrack,
been playing this every update for a couple months now and all i can say is it is THE best VN i have ever played through <3
Knowing Mikko loves the best track on Anima, man
I already was 180'ing into liking him but now im just absolutely in love. Great music taste
Is there really no Travis route
Sadly I don't think so
No debí hacer primero la ruta de Mikko, ahora siento que las otras relaciones no son tan profundas como la de Mikko, que hasta ahora es tierna, profunda, significativa y con una historia de fondo.😭
la de Rune es la que más se acerca
Pls pls pls read this vn because it's a beautifully told story or story's should I say. Pls after you have finished a route play the song Plant by Kasper Lindmark on Spotify, it made me think of this vn immediately.
oh wow it does :0
Finish the Jørgen route!!!!!!!!!!!!!
been awhile since i played this but Mikko's route broke me, i latterly make myself play another route (would recommend)
Well, I haven't had a visual novel make me think as much as this one did. I love the characters and the themes. Maybe it's because I'm currently a student myself but this game made me introspect a lot and I'm very grateful for it. I can't wait to experience the full story. Btw, Jørgen is my favourite :3
real 💯
I love the gay-furry-romance-during-travel genre.
I'm getting an unusual warning from my computer whenever I try and download the latest build, a warning saying that the file is suspicious and possibly virus carrying. It's probably just my PC being overly cautious like normal, but can anyone else who has already downloaded it verify whether the public build is safe please?
It's safe bro
Thanks
Thanks for the visual snow representation ❤️
Hi, can somebody tell me what the heck is wrong with torulf's route?
In what regard?
Like, I honestly thought he was pretty normal until I played through the ending of day 2 and day 3. I played with two "mini-routes", one where mc tells mikko he's jealous and the one where he tries to get mikko apologies from torulf, and playing through them kinda made me realize that I'm kind of wrong in the head for taking half of torulf's behavior as normal, and that he kind of gives me creeps. Like, I honestly want to keep playing his route but I'll keep going because Im truly interested in what ends up happening in the end of both mini-routes and what does he actually feels about that whole messed up situation with Lake and the mc
This is one of the reasons why the author is amazing... I think they kind of put you into Arvo's perspective so well that you don't really notice how isolated from your friends you've become until it's too late. You get pitted against Lake and against Mikko and against everyone because he wants to test how far you're willing to go for him.
Torulf is kind of toxic because he's driven on a base level by a desire for recognition due to—from my perspective at least—a lack of confidence in his own self worth. He seeks external validation to feel as though he means something. We see this in the way he preens in front of others, and his openly flirtatious attitude. We see this in his actions towards the MC and towards lake.
However his desire for external gratification melds with his fear of commitment and creates this really unhealthy balance of push and pull on people's feelings.
Look at Lake, for example. On the one hand, Torulf desires to be close to him physically and maybe even emotionally in some deep hidden way. He loves the attention and the compliments. He loves to be desired, but when the sex is over, and the cuddling is past... when the gradification ends... he's left empty again, and because he can't fill himself up with his own confidence and his own love, he goes out to seek it from others once again.
This creates a poisonous cycle of distancing himself and getting close and distancing himself and getting close. Hot and cold if you will.
If you haven't yet played Lakes route yet, I would do so. If I'm correct you get a glimpse into Torulfs mind near the end of the newest update. I shall leave it at that. Hopefully my ramblings make sense.
Best route.
:0 I agree that it's well written. Just reminds me of people I've known. It's just a little too real for me to be comfortable with.
Torluf(and us by choosing his route) breaks Arvo on a fundamental level. We choose that Arvo "feels comfortable" with Torluf's flirting, but based on the little knowledge that we know ABOUT Arvo, his personality, and past, would he ACTUALLY be okay with it?
If we step out of our "We control the main character" point of view, and look at the situation through, say Lake's or Mikko's perspective, we would probably see some stranger changing your friend from Mikko's view, and a person who you seek validation from(Via compliments, contact, or sex,) pitting your friend against you from Lake's view.
The bathroom scene after the third NSFW scene shows Arvo(almost) realizing what's happening, and getting disgusted by himself and his actions(At least, that's how I interpret it.) He also confides in the ram lady who's name I forgot about it, and seeks advice from her.
It's also important to note that this doesn't happen in ANY other routes. Not after anything with Bjorn, not after anything with Rune, not after anything with Jorgen. It's only in TORLUF'S route. I may be copying what someone has already said, but the other routes bring out different parts of Arvo's personality, while Torluf's route changes Arvo into doing things that he probably wouldn't do on any other route.
how do I delete a save file? trying to make space for another route.
you can just overwrite saves :3
i've not seen anyone say just how cute mikko is i love this vn!!
I adore Jorgen, that sweet boy.
same here
this is great!!! <3
is it just me or the "go see mikko" choice didnt show up in my first playthrough
wait when id that choice come up?
I was doing the double refuse to sleep with Torulf route and I got this message right after entering the forest. Anyone has an idea of how to fix that? Or alternatively, tell me what happens after Arvo goes into the forest in that route? lol
Also I just played all the routes (I could play lol) for Torulf and I have to praise the writing because wow,,,,, I have never seen a character that embodied the concept of red flag as much as him lmaooo.
Like literally every part of him is insufferable (in a good way as a reader dw), and like his stingy ass and the bareback sex is like the cherry on top lmao.
Like this route feels like a cautionary tale it's so cathartic lol- like honestly 10/10 writing because never in my life have I wanted to reach out into my screen and strangle a character more than with that character lmaoooo.
Leo from echo is the definition of red flag
LMAOO you’re so real for that 😭😭
(Spoilers)
I was team Kudzu all the way like he’s literally THE dream bf like storytime: my friend coerced me into playing the Leo route (that’s how I got introduced to the furry fandom lol) and I was bored outta my mind by Leo so I can’t properly express how much I was rooting for Chase x Kudzu to happen and the way I SCREAMED when they got together at the end 😭😭😭 and the funniest part is that my friend is a diehard Leo Stan and he was convinced that I would be one as well ahdjhzhejf 😭 Kudzu supremacy fr lmaooo
SPOILER
Honestly, I think Kudzu deserves better than Chase. Hell no, I think even Leo deserves better than him. Throughout the routes my opinion about Chase got lower and lower especially during Flynn's route. I do understand that he was possesed most of the game but still It doesn't change the fact that I don't like him as a character. Kudzu best boi tho
I know it was so weird having a mc so in the wrong sometimes I loved it
SPOILERS!!!!!
Chase DOES suck in some of the game, but that's somewhat to blame on the hum(the hysteria), somewhat to blame on Samuel(us), and somewhat to blame on Chase Himself. I'm pretty sure the hum "amplifies" the "Crazy" traits of someone, be it Leo's obsession with Chase as seen by The Embrace, or Jenna's craziness in the bad end of her route. I don't believe that Chase is blameless, but I do believe that he isn't entirely at fault.
..But then again, Leo causes Chase to lose his feet in the bad end, so Leo IS covered in red flags.
Torulf is... He reminds me of... Ehh... In my opinion, he's the only one that truly warps Arvo in a structural sense. The only one that...
Everyone in the story of course brings out sides of him, highlights needs, or opens him up to new possibilities about himself and about the world, but Torulf makes him into something he's not. Twists him up inside.
It reminds me too much of people I've met/interacted with before.
Overall though, just as everyone else in the story, he's a well written and believable character. He just hits a little to close to home in some ways.
jorgen my beloved~♥️
I love this gam but do I get a good ending with Rune🥲
Bjørn decides when the hug ends~ 😼
This game is so cool I binged the Rune route the past few days and I loved it sm <3
i had a question concerning SPOILERS:
The Klaus route. First of all, this route is fantastic and by far my favorite!! I didn’t expect much and yet I was mindblown lol, I love when romance is combined with a horror aspect and the blend of dream-reality had me on my toes the whole time lol- and also, having not played the Mikko route yet, the Klaus route really builds up the tension of what happened between Mikko and Arvo and I can’t wait to find out what happened in the Mikko route.
Now for my question: seemingly, at the end of day 2, there’s a message from Klaus that says to meet him at the door on the right in the corridor that leads to the sauna. And then, it takes me back to the main screen.
Is there something for me to find out? I’ve tried replaying a few routes and try to go to the screen of that specific corridor and click on the door on the right but nothing seems to happen.
Is it yet to be implemented for a day 3 of that route or is it already implemented and must be found out? I got the idea that since the route seems to play with the notion of 4th wall breaks, it might be the latter.
Anyway, thank you for the game it’s just so cool I love it!!
How do I get to the Klaus route? I've actually not figured that single route out.
(First spoilers)
you need to get a jacket to be able to access the first Klaus event (you can get it in the Devon route and also another one I think but I forgot with who, maybe Rune)
And second spoilers:
You need to select Devon as a roommate and third spoilers:
when you’re asked to help him with the telescopes you have to choose to go to the cafeteria instead
Hope this helps!
thanks!